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he was probably very very tough with him: sympathetic to the united states. some of them are in the security forces. theoretical power. very top power. if power directed by president obama at any muslim nation. including iran. >> he stepped up the drone attacks in pakistan. >> bill: that's against terrorists, not against the governments. >> it was definitely against the public opinion in pakistan. it was a very tough stance. kazmierczaked a lot of friction with the government. >> what could pakistan possibly do. i'm glad you mentioned pakistan. >> that is one of the areas. >> wait, wait, wait. >> seal raid. it took out usama bin laden. >> bill: i always have. drones i give them credit for and the raid. pakistan puts the guy who made the raid possible. the doctor in prison for 33 years. that is spitting in our eye. what do we do about that? nothing? a lot of issues behind the scene and under the table. >> in the case of pakistan. there is a lot of pushing and shoving that you don't see. there is lots of action going back and forth across that border. >> so we
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states, but if the united states reacts against these mod moderate goech moderate governments, it makes the democratic government weaker. >> so what are we left to do as a country? >> work with these governments. they want to support us. want jobs, they want democracy, all the values we've been preaching, but it takes a while to get there. and you're dealing with unlevel education, high levels of unemployment, lots of frustration among young people, some goes back years and years. and i had lamb whiislam which h they didn't stand the chance. so there's sense of sort of us against them. and all of these factors weigh into this equation. but the majority of the people, and certainly the governments in these countries, they value their relationship with the united states, they don't want anything to happen to it, they're strongly pro american, but they're -- >> that's despite what we see in the streets. >> of course. this is a small minority of people. very small minority. >> we appreciate your perspective, sir. thank you for your time. >>> up next, mitt romney has spent an awful lot of ti
states, but if the united states reacts against these mod moderate goech moderate governments, it makes the democratic government weaker. >> so what are we left to do as a country? >> work with these governments. they want to support us. want jobs, they want democracy, all the values we've been preaching, but it takes a while to get there. and you're dealing with unlevel education, high levels of unemployment, lots of frustration among young people, some goes back years and years....
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that the response from the united states was late? >> obama, all of your government, it was very late. >> reporter: so all of this is because the response was late? but there was little time for interviews. we should turn around here. the police are charging. >> you see what happened, what -- just -- the egyptian government is doing with the egyptian people because -- because of the americans. >> reporter: there were demonstrations today in nearly 40 cities across the region and beyond. but as bad as it looks, the demonstrations were generally small. but in what will have implications for security worldwide, the extremists have found a weak spot to attack a super power they believe is responsible for an offense against islam. and radicals, brian, are still looking for other soft targets. today, they attacked a u.n. outpost here in egypt, and several american chain restaurants in the region. brian? >> interesting to watch this throughout the weekend, richard engel in cairo, thank you, and we're getting a first look at what happened ins
that the response from the united states was late? >> obama, all of your government, it was very late. >> reporter: so all of this is because the response was late? but there was little time for interviews. we should turn around here. the police are charging. >> you see what happened, what -- just -- the egyptian government is doing with the egyptian people because -- because of the americans. >> reporter: there were demonstrations today in nearly 40 cities across the...
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may god continue to bless the united states of america. let's we have a great honor of the injured -- let me have a great honor of introducing someone who came to the state department earlier this week to grieve with us. he understands and values the work that these men were doing for our country. the president of the united states. >> the scripture teaches us greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. glen doherty never shied from adventure. he believed he could make a difference. he served with distinction in iraq and afghanistan. in benghazi, he laid down his life. today, glen is home. tyrone woods devoted 20 years of his life to the seals. the quiet professional. rone also served in iraq and afghanistan. in benghazi, he was far from dorothy and tyrone jr. and he laid down his life, protecting his friends. today, he is home. sean smith live to serve, first in the air force and then at the state department. he knew the perils of his calling from his time in baghdad. in benghazi, he surely thought of
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just a thought, if you are the president of the united states. >> yeah. well, the arab spring, 18 months ago, which the president encouraged and supported throughout is being hijacked by islamic militants militants and fundamentalists. in the crowd, it was like the royal fam leave al qaeda, the brother of the head of al qaeda, and the two nephews of the blind sheikh, this was organized. this is part of a plan. flow what has happened is a country, after could you want reafter country, it is caught on like wildfire, this is not the end of it. you are going to start seeing americans expected. americans harmed. we have-- >>> what will be -- this is the thing, what will be -- you know, the administration -- [overlapping dialogue] >> sean: proud of our foreign policy. then they said, of course, this is not directed at america. my question is, this happened on 9/11. we have learned, this protest, in spite what have they claim is a youtube video has been planned since august. it's 9/11, a day of great significance, as it relates to the terrorist world, why was th
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the film was produced in the united states. we're going to go first to nancy cordes with the return of the reporan dead. >> reporter: the remains of the u. u.s. ambassador to libya and nd into hers were carried off a military plane and into a hangar where the president and other dignitaries, state department liaffers, and the victims' families waited. rye families had met privately with the president and secretary of state before the ceremony. >> this has been a difficult week for the state department and for our country. >> reporter: an emotional secretary clinton paid tribute to each man in turn. >> sean smith joined the state department after six years in the air force. ne-- speoods-- known to most as rone-- spent two decades as a navy seal, serving multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan. glen doherty-- who went by ic.b"-- was also a former seal and an experienced paramedic. d- reporter: she saved for last yan ambassador she had hand- selected to help the libyan >> i w build a new government. hris steveonored to know was kno
the film was produced in the united states. we're going to go first to nancy cordes with the return of the reporan dead. >> reporter: the remains of the u. u.s. ambassador to libya and nd into hers were carried off a military plane and into a hangar where the president and other dignitaries, state department liaffers, and the victims' families waited. rye families had met privately with the president and secretary of state before the ceremony. >> this has been a difficult week for...
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one of the difficult issues for the united states how do we react to this? because we've got our fifth fleet stationed in bahrain. bahrain has been a friend of the united states for the last several, many decade and there is a tension between our commitment to human rights, our commitment to our democratic principles on the one hand which are vitally important for us but our real world concrete interests insuring the flow of oil through the straits of hormuz which you covered and insuring we have stable relations and influence with governments in the region. melissa: i want to quickly characterize the video we're looking at here. he is trying to make the case, and he said this repeatedly and very open about it during the interview, he did not shy away from the question, when you have people in the streets throwing molotov cocktails you are putting in jeopdy the safety of the rest of our citizens. he makes it sounds like you have a few people who are causing trouble. the other side would say these are a few people who are standing up for democracy that want t
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is egypt an ally of the united states? >> well, they certainly have been and given the amount of money and the military and military training and the special economic relationship we share with egypt, it certainly would suggest that they are an ally. we've got some agreements with respect to the overall relationship with israel. where egypt playing a signifant role and if they're not willing to continue that, that would suggest we're entering a new era, and one in which the united states really needs to reconsider the amount of money we're pumping into that country. >> so, you think if it becomes more transactional, this discussion about foreign aid. military aid and forp aid about $3 billion a year to egypt. that should be on the table? >> of course it should on the table. any of the aid money, whether it's military or non military, needs to be based upon certain milestones and accomplishments we're able to make within the bilateral relationship. >> hogan diddley served for rick santorum's presidential campaign. national
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you expect the united states to be clear and the secretary of the united states. and but we should not allow ourselves to be drug in to a theological argument. it is not the onof the president of the united states to tell me that you schism is a great religion or islam is a great religion. that's not their job. you focus on the issue. we have -- americans have a problem with embassies. since 1979, no country in the world had problems with the embassy like the americans. from the storming of the embassy in iran to burns the embassy and burning the embassy in libya. it was 1979. and then, you know, the list is long. we're extremely sensible about this. and everybody show knolled that we are sensitive of this. i'm a secularist to the bones. i'm respectful of the religious. and i have a view of men and bearded men engaging in politics. [inaudible] when mohamed tried to -- [inaudible] can you see muslim embassy being stormed anywhere in the world? bryan, i know you want to comment on that. i want to engage on the question of u.s. policy. because, you know, i do think c
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primarily in the united states, but in other parts of the world as well. that is going to be a target in the future for budget cutters simply because they do not have the lobby influence that military personnel do when you talk about cutting military strength. you can talk to members of congress on the hill. the civilians do not have the same amount of experience. it is not quite as clear to people what dod civilians are doing. i knew -- i know from having worked with them that they do a lot of great work. it ranges from everything to mowing the grass to overseeing billion dollar acquisition programs. could you trim that number? of course. if you cut too far, you risk getting -- not getting the job done. sequestration is an interesting one. the obama administration has indicated they submitted a letter to congress say if sequestration happens, they will use their authority under the law to exempt military personnel. no one in the military will lose their jobs and their pay will not be cut. its assets will not be cut with the exception of health care. a lar
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klutzy do not have the government of the united states trying to appease a mob. the mob was on it's way. >> that's not the last word. we will have more on the middle east. >> the administration sent mixed signals to those attacked our embassy. egypt and to the world. >> "the wall street journal" says the u.s. is perceived as a declining power. as the perception spreads, the world's bad actors are asserting themselves to fill a vacuum and american interests will become targets unless the trend is reversed. those moms in the middle east and a declining power. colby, do you agree? >> they were responding to what they saw as an insult to the prophet mohammad. you have people exploiting the situation. perhaps this happened in libya, but they've were bent on doing exactly what they did. >> was this plan that? -- was this planned? >>there is some evidence that it was planned. >> but it's no 9/11. >> we have to get all the facts right. this has been really confusing. we did not know if the ambassador was actually killed. the first report it was outside in a car bomb. the
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and turkey so as you see this and high school it across the whole region in the united states who believed creator of this film is not cool at best and he has been taken in by miracle parties for questioning now he has said that he does not look great making this film although he does with great loss of life but we are hearing that he is considering releasing the full version of the film and certainly the demonstrations here in cairo have lost momentum right now it is essentially a mop up operation but as i'm speaking to you he speak to me as are still cleaning up the degree the glass the rocks and the stones that are left over from the last few days of my saying the united states and egypt are traditionally close partners it does seem as if this relationship is very rocky at the moment the last word we heard from president barack obama is that he does not consider egypt and i while at the same time he does not consider them an enemy. doctors treat. dean of the school of international affairs believe that people should search do you put up for the root cause of the protests. but producer d
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some nation has to lead the rest of the world in trying and that would be the united states. it isn't going to just happen on its own. somebody has to exercise leadership. >> meanwhile, the other big event this week is the argument, public argument between israel and prime minister benjamin netanyahu and the united states over how firmly to draw so-called red lines against iran's nuclear program. it was an hour long phone call one evening this week between netanyahu and obama seemed to have calmed the latest furor down. what message does that send to our foes in the middle east that we're fighting with our allies. >> and we've never had a contentious relationship with the israelis that we have right now. and as we treat israel, you know, the foes say this is not a country serious about being the leader of the world and it is, a lot of people in this country think that the power on the decline in the region and the message is that we're not willing to step up into a role in that world and sort of shape an outcome more conducive to peace and prosperity. would not seem, mary, to
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it is never too early for the united states government to condemn attacks on americans and defend our values. i think it is a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values, that instead, when our grounds are being attacked and being breached that the first response to the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. >> there is no space between this talk and what we heard from sarah palin in the campaign four years ago. catch her act. >> we see an america of exceptionalism. yes, usa, usa. our opponent is someone who sees america as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. >> this gets back to you, ron. it seems to me you have hit something here. instead of leading, he is shrinking down into something smaller than he began to campaign as. i can be a crazy too. i can be a fringy too. i can talk like sarah palin. that seems to be the language it takes to win a republican constituency. it is sad to watch somebody get smaller as the campaign goes on reaching down to the people that think small and think
it is never too early for the united states government to condemn attacks on americans and defend our values. i think it is a terrible course for america to stand in apology for our values, that instead, when our grounds are being attacked and being breached that the first response to the united states must be outrage at the breach of the sovereignty of our nation. >> there is no space between this talk and what we heard from sarah palin in the campaign four years ago. catch her act....
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. >> reporter: the question is whether the united states underestimated the threat from hostile groups here. one security libyan official told me he met with officials three days before the attack took place. he says he warned them not for the first time that security in benghazi was deteriorating. he said, "we told the americans the situation was frightening. it scares us." the ambassador, too, seems to be aware of the general threat from islamist militants, but no one anticipated the terrible violence that would take his life and the life of three other americans on tuesday night. arwa damon, cnn, benghazi, libya. >>> we have also seen several days of mass protests and demonstrations in egypt, but egyptian security forces there have cracked down arresting more than 140,000 protesters. let's bring in ian lee. half the protests there let up in the capital? >> well, randi, it seems to be over now. earlier this morning the police with the heavy, heavy presence pushed the protesters away from the u.s. embassy, forcing them to tahrir square and from there they pushed them out of the square
. >> reporter: the question is whether the united states underestimated the threat from hostile groups here. one security libyan official told me he met with officials three days before the attack took place. he says he warned them not for the first time that security in benghazi was deteriorating. he said, "we told the americans the situation was frightening. it scares us." the ambassador, too, seems to be aware of the general threat from islamist militants, but no one...
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the united states must intervene. through that we can see how it is institutionalized. >> the chairman recognizes the ranking member. >> you did a good job looking his starkly at this. coming from a different and go -- anglo i heard of the policies could this and the same set of circumstances have been today? >> list slightly
the united states must intervene. through that we can see how it is institutionalized. >> the chairman recognizes the ranking member. >> you did a good job looking his starkly at this. coming from a different and go -- anglo i heard of the policies could this and the same set of circumstances have been today? >> list slightly
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no more united states what is the mission a first is have an opening to do this today should have made similar with me hearing from them that they believe that this has all the telltale signs kind of a need is incredibly volatile across the region with the demonstrations today saturday. reporting right there from cairo well it all to dot com team is working twenty four seven to bring you the latest news from the arab world as well as a great pitchers on the expert analysis with posting the latest updates there live right as they come in and there's now a time line of showing exactly how the situation is developing. los angeles police interviews the suspected director of the american made and t.v. muslim film which triggered the pan out of breath of the islamic art rest on our website our team talk. it's good to have you with us here on oxy today washington has deployed its marines across the arab world to protect u.s. missions while the white house struggles to contain this fallout america's leadership has condemned this film and stressed it has nothing to do with it but it's not his g
no more united states what is the mission a first is have an opening to do this today should have made similar with me hearing from them that they believe that this has all the telltale signs kind of a need is incredibly volatile across the region with the demonstrations today saturday. reporting right there from cairo well it all to dot com team is working twenty four seven to bring you the latest news from the arab world as well as a great pitchers on the expert analysis with posting the...
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states of america will never retreat from the world. we will never stop working for the dignity and freedom that every person deserves it could be that the obama administration thinks by supporting revolutions by fostering regime change washington is winning the hearts and minds of the people in that part of the world but we sent events showed that's not quite so if you look at poll numbers that gauge public attitude towards the u.s. in different muslim countries u.s. approval rating is the same as it was under president george w. bush in some countries like pakistan it's much worse and these numbers have nothing to do with the infamous film but they do have something to do with us policies you know we can rap any kind of purple finger revolution we want people to have democracy and have freedom but at the end of the day when we look at the results of what's been accomplished over two decades of being in this region destabilizing the region we have hundreds of millions of people who are the in a lot of cases had their world turned upsid
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obviously primarily in the united states but in other parts of the world as well. they're not all u.s. citizens as well. that is going to be a target in the future for budget cutters because they don't have a lot of influence that military personnel do. you talk about cutting military industry and get services riled up and talk to members of congress. civilians don't have the same influence. it is not as clear to people especially in the general public what civilians are doing. having worked with many of them they do a lot of great work. arranging everything from mowing the grass to overseeing billion dollar acquisition programs. could you trim that number and get efficiency? of course but if you cut too far you risk not getting the job done or providing sufficient oversight or use military personnel which are more expensive per person to do the same job. sequestration is an interesting one. obama administration submitted a letter saying if sequestration happens they will use their authority under the law to exempt military personnel so no one in the uniformed mili
obviously primarily in the united states but in other parts of the world as well. they're not all u.s. citizens as well. that is going to be a target in the future for budget cutters because they don't have a lot of influence that military personnel do. you talk about cutting military industry and get services riled up and talk to members of congress. civilians don't have the same influence. it is not as clear to people especially in the general public what civilians are doing. having worked...
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the simple fact the united states gets to meet with whomever they want to meet with. it's a silly argument to say we didn't get a formal request to meet in new york and the president is not going to be there and we're going miss each other in washington. if you want to meet with the israelis and meet with the pakistanis you get to meet with them. >> jon: so is the media defending the president on this? >> i mean it depends on who you talk to. the administration didn't get a request. i defer to judy on this. i think the question has to be raised what is obama administration supposed to do. are they going to agree to go to war with iran. that is conversation that needs to be have instead of the tit-for-tat did they have meeting here. what are we talking about here. >> i think the subject, joe cline articulated one view is he called netanyahu's statement treajdz and disgusting. there is a lot of disgust going around the capital because he, quote, dared to interject himself into american politics. the line the obama line is going to be, trying to draw us into a war. that
the simple fact the united states gets to meet with whomever they want to meet with. it's a silly argument to say we didn't get a formal request to meet in new york and the president is not going to be there and we're going miss each other in washington. if you want to meet with the israelis and meet with the pakistanis you get to meet with them. >> jon: so is the media defending the president on this? >> i mean it depends on who you talk to. the administration didn't get a request....
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the others were an election in the united states is not an election. in order to find out there's a lot of mama. obama's going to hold up fine line. into consideration you know the rest of. the manse which expect him to act. because when norwich on. international relations. was one of them or now is that it's not just about us. just the prophets you know more it's meant to us. it's what's happening in some ways you can egypt for example. when you find. the mystic. each other. person is. the sum of its muslims. and something like. this also. knows what to do to. people. who. are committed to trying to ignorance legitimacy and you didn't. i mean once again not religious but. preaching to the fire. ministry. certainly has given a lot of a lot of groups around the world a reason to to get together to coagulate and certainly a joining chorus what with their with their with a i suppose a certain subset in this and just being frustrated with what's going on with this film that allegedly. middle east analyst at the university of sydney where on day five of the
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this is a huge issue for the united states. we do not have allies in that part of the region and we need them. >> do you think that we could become isolationists by reason of this worldwide phenomenon? if that is what it is? >> we cannot afford to lose that region, in this sense. >> no. >> john we've lost it. antiamericanism is pandemic throughout that region. the polls show americans are disliked, detested, hated. >> that is not new. >> but what i'm saying is when you have got a simple, stupid video that can ignite this whole thing, we ought to realize that that is there and pull back for heaven's sakes. we can't alter or change the mind set of these people. east is east and west is west and never the dwayne shall meet. >> that is classic president buchanan isolation. we are not going to draw a line. we can't withdraw from the world. the danish cartoon was the we have tried very, very hard and i think we have been successful at the federal reserve to be nonpartisan and apolitical and we make our decisions based entirely on the
this is a huge issue for the united states. we do not have allies in that part of the region and we need them. >> do you think that we could become isolationists by reason of this worldwide phenomenon? if that is what it is? >> we cannot afford to lose that region, in this sense. >> no. >> john we've lost it. antiamericanism is pandemic throughout that region. the polls show americans are disliked, detested, hated. >> that is not new. >> but what i'm saying...
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calm the united states has beefed up its security and this is a mission that has reinforcements to the capital yemenite. at the same time the quest to send the snow we see the capital city. one subject by authorities there they say that they can deal with the security situation by themselves from libya we are hearing and of course this is where the american ambassador and three . that high ranking u.s. stock in the state will someday be clearing that for a grace has been made we have no information at this stage as to the identities of those are wasted but we are hearing that an announcement regarding reserve race will be made soon both the united states and libyan authorities are pointing at al qaida they say that the attack has the fingerprints of al qaida and al-qaeda has released a statement and although it doesn't take responsibility directly for this attack in benghazi it has said that the attack was in response to the killing of all kind is the number two by u.s. drones at the same time we're also hearing that the f.b.i. has to spend a visit to libya to deal with the investigati
calm the united states has beefed up its security and this is a mission that has reinforcements to the capital yemenite. at the same time the quest to send the snow we see the capital city. one subject by authorities there they say that they can deal with the security situation by themselves from libya we are hearing and of course this is where the american ambassador and three . that high ranking u.s. stock in the state will someday be clearing that for a grace has been made we have no...
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there are also salafists who don't want a relationship with the united states. gwen: you just hit on something important which is at the beginning of the week you saw the president having to make a phone call to netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, and at the end of the week having to make a phone call to mursi, another difficult relationship. theoretically, both allies. how difficult was this for the white house to juggle? >> i think it was really difficult for them because here we have a white house that really sort of tip-toed its way through the arab spring and tried to be on the side of the ghontors but not too much and sort of tried to balance that out and i think kind of felt like they had gotten through it and all of a sudden we're back there today. this is also a president, keep in mind, who went to cairo in 2009 and said he wanted a new start with the arab world and the muslim world, you know, forget the, i mean bad things have happened in the past and here we are at the dawn of a new day. here we see now anti-american protests throughout the region.
there are also salafists who don't want a relationship with the united states. gwen: you just hit on something important which is at the beginning of the week you saw the president having to make a phone call to netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, and at the end of the week having to make a phone call to mursi, another difficult relationship. theoretically, both allies. how difficult was this for the white house to juggle? >> i think it was really difficult for them because here we...